Very few services are available for gas and food. Before each hunting trip, verify that the zone is still open, by calling 877-438-0447 or checking online at View harvest thresholds and zone closures. This squirrel is most active early in the morning and just prior to dark and is always associated with Ponderosa Pines. No motorized vehicles are allowed in BLM wilderness. Glassing from the slopes of the Kaibab plateau can give you a higher vantage point. Older age "mature" bulls are taken on a regular basis. Concentrate your efforts in areas with waterholes (not necessarily on the water), as the plateau is often dry at this time of the year. The Kaibab Plateau ranges from 6,000' to 9,200'; vegetation consists of ponderosa pine, mixed conifer, and aspen. Finally, enjoy the finest terrain, climate, and surroundings that nature has to offer, the Kaibab Plateau. Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity. If frost has cured out the summer range forage and some cold weather has struck, concentrate your efforts in the pinyon/juniper areas and even farther out in the sage and open canyon country. During the spring hunt be prepared for cold temperatures and even snow. There's nothing like autumn on the North Kaibab and Arizona Strip. It is the hunters responsibility to know where they are and the state line is patrolled heavily by both Utah and Arizona law enforcement. Come join the discussion about safety, gear, tips, tricks, optics, gunsmithing, reviews, reports, accessories, classifieds, and more! If the deer are low and you glass enough it will pay off. The lion population in Unit 12 is a migratory population of rought 60-80 animals with the lions essentially following the deer herd as it migrates from summer to winter ranges. Overview: The world famous, or infamous, Kaibab Mule Deer herd. Arizona Game and Fish Department, Region II 928 774-5045 . hunter success will increase with time spent glassing. As turkeys fly off the roost in the early pre-dawn, often the most active period of the day, they may provide a hunter the best opportunity to call in a wary old longbeard. Areas: It may be hard to believe but the likelihood of running into an older age class buck, as near as the author can tell, is just about equal almost anywhere on the plateau. Bachelor herds are typically broken up by this hunt and bucks can be relatively evenly distributed throughout the plateau. Notice: Archery deer hunters Unit 12B and 12B West are not an open area for over-the-counter tag holders since 2008. That is a huge area to even begin to scout. Use common sense; dont take shortcuts as they often take a lot longer than the more sensible route. Post not marked as liked . . As a result of continued drought those areas of higher elevation, specifically those areas with spruce/fir/aspen forests have been the most productive areas for the past several years. Proactive management steps in the form of an Alternative Management Plan and a large scale habitat improvement project in cooperation with the USFS have been taken by the Arizona Game and Fish Department in order to maintain a favorable buck:doe ratio, increase the representation of older age bucks in the population, ensure long term high quality habitat, and provide for greater hunt success. The Bureau of Land Management, Arizona Strip District, 345 E. Riverside Drive, St. George, Utah, 84770, phone (435) 688-3200 manages the majority of unit 12B. Essentially, it could take decades of applying to get drawn for a premier hunt for one of Arizona's world class mule deer. I plan on going up there to scout sometime soon but was wondering if anyone has seen elk up there. If outside of wilderness you may drive cross country to retrieve your animal. Elk use open grasslands and sparsely forested areas more than most people think, and since these areas usually have fewer roads it is much easier to escape hunting pressure in these areas. Concentrate your efforts in areas with rim-rock and significant changes in elevation. Concentrate on areas that are more inaccessible. Like mentioned above check the g&f site and give the manager a call. The current population estimate is around 250 bighorn sheep. If there are any elk they migrate down from Utah and move south until the canyon stops them. This is a small resident herd and is not part of the deer that migrate from Paunsaugunt or the Kaibab. Four-wheel drive, chains, shovels, and winches can keep you hunting instead of being stuck for a day. Antlerless Hunting: After several years of antlerless hunting, many of the does on the plateau have become as hunter-wise as most bucks. Favorite Deer Units : 13 b ,12a, 12b, 10, 17a & b,18b , 21, 23, 44, 20c Favorite Antelope Units: 5a, 7, 9, 10, 7a, 18a. Important Note: (See unit description under Unit Boundaries) 12BW includes the Buckskins to the north of the Kaibab and the west side winter range including Pigeon Canyon and Gunsight Point. Large numbers of domestic sheep grazed on the Paria Plateau, Vermilion Cliffs, and Paria Canyon until the 1960s when the Bureau of Land Management converted all grazing permits to cattle only. Have fun, Maybe the trees will be in fall colors when your there, Beautiful colors that time of year. 0. While calling can sometimes be productive, the most successful technique is more similar to archery hunting mule deer. In the recent past several bucks taken on the Kaibab have been entered into the record books. Areas: During the spring turkey hunt significant winter snowfall can affect access and often dictates hunting locations. Units 12A East, 12AWest and 12B require near max points, but hunters lucky enough to draw an East side Kaibab tag are in store for an incredible mule deer hunt. in Page; Lees Ferry Campground, 4 miles north of Marble Canyon, administered by the National Park Service. Large swings indicate a good layering system should be used. Overview: The Unit 12A Mountain Lion population, based on harvest information and observed lion sign, appears to be healthy and robust. Elevations vary from 3,000' to more than 9,200', with a large plateau, the Kaibab, comprising a majority of the unit. If you are fortunate enough to receive a coveted 12A deer tag you might consider purchasing a mountain lion tag before heading to the Kaibab. You could hire a outfitter to get in there and pin down where the few elk are. Sometimes the November and December hunts can be. The majority of the unit is public land administered by the Bureau of Land Management, Arizona Strip District, 345 E. Riverside Drive, St. George, Utah 84770, phone (435) 688-3200. In addition to the 48-hr reporting requirement, the hunter (or their designee) needs to present the mountain lions skull and hide with attached proof of sex to a designated Arizona Game and Fish Department employee for inspection within 10 days of taking the mountain lion. *There are currently no Population Management Seasons for elk tags available for successfully drawn deer hunters in Units 12A East and/or West. Finally, during the night, prior to a morning hunt drive the roads getting out occasionally and turkey calling. Enjoy the natural splendor of the Kaibab Plateau, revel in your good fortune at having a tag, but most of all be a responsible sportsman and represent our sport in the best manner possible. From the North: U.S. Hwy 89 The population grew to about 160 bighorns within the first 8 years. Bring binoculars and spotting scopes. Chukar also been occasionally observed in drainages to the Colorado River and along the Vermillion Cliffs in the wilderness area in 12BE. Public land and private land percentages can sometime be misleading. Fredonia, Marble Canyon, Page, Kanab, UT, Major Highways and Roads Leading To Motor vehicle travel is restricted to existing roads on all BLM land in the Unit. New Detailed bison hunt information web page. Lesson learned! Anyone drawing a 16A elk tag should be prepared to work hard on both scouting and hunting trips. The previous year a few elk were seen and even taken there, and since I had been drawn for elk the previous year I took a chance and was drawn. Many come with visions of 32 wide racks with multiple points per side, still others are happy with a tender yearling forkhorn. Your big game hunter questionnaire may no longer be mailed to you. During both the spring and fall hunts be safe and acquire positive target identification. Remember, 30 bucks are special because they are extremely, extremely rare. Getting off the road and into the canyons will improve your observations of mule deer bucks, especially mature ones. Many hunters utilize horses and mules, snowmobiles, and other recreational vehicles to overcome these access limitations. Also look for turkey scratch, those locations where flocks of turkeys have been feeding and have disturbed the litter layer of the forest floor. Major Cities and Towns in or Near Game Management Unit and Nearest Gas, Food, and Lodging LIST VIEW. Overview: According to David Brown in Arizona Game Birds the Blue grouse is a native of the Kaibab Plateau and restricted locals in the White Mountains. Good optics are a must for both scouting and glassing during your hunt. Keep movements to a minimum, scan the surrounding area constantly, and listen for turkey vocalizations. Majority of the deer harvested on the early hunt are younger bucks around 2 years of age. A good bird dog can be of great assistance in retrieving downed birds. Roads in the unit can become extremely muddy when wet and heavy rains frequently wash out the main roads, thus it is important to be prepared with suitable shelter, plenty of food, water and extra fuel. Great Buffalo viewing areas a couple miles north of park entry, If your Lucky. Im not at all familiar with the area but read on azgfd that the population is super low. Bighorn have typically been harvested along the rim of the Paria Plateau near Bush Head, Powells Monument, and Fisher Point. Therefore, chances for success are very low. These hunts include the Arizona strip (Units 13A or 13B) or Kaibab (Units 12A East, 12A West and 12B) for mule deer. BLM road 1065 runs north from U.S. Hwy 89A to U.S. Hwy 89 in Utah between the Buckskin Mountains and the Paria Plateau. Waterhole hunting becomes less productive as frost begins to supply the need for water. The Warm Springs and Nail Canyon areas in 12AW and the Cocks Combs area in 12AE are good starting points. A few, very few elk wander south from Utah now and then. This is my first year being drawn for elk and got a tag for all 12 and 13 units for any elk and this tag is good until April of '19. At least it's at a discounted price. Grouse hunting is a great excuse to come to the Kaibab to enjoy a cooler climate. Very few deer reside in 12BW year round, making it difficult to hunt during the archery season in August and September. Areas: Concentrate your efforts on the southeast side of the Plateau in sub-unit 12AE. Be prepared for snow, mud, and adverse weather conditions, and bring plenty of supplies. Shooting from a vehicle and from the roadway is also prohibited. Be prepared for extreme weather. Please contact any department office for additional information or to purchase an elk OTC tag. The Arizona Big Game Application Deadline for Elk is 11:59 P.M. (Arizona Time) Feb 14, 2023 Our online/print magazine has everything in one location: Application info, draw details and odds, fees, hunter requirements, point structure, age restrictions, youth information, weapon restrictions, other tag opportunities, hunt planning and much more. Also, several lions are sighted each year by hunters glassing canyons and watching waters. Dreams have been realized, or shattered, on every hunt in this Unit since its inception. Under alternative management these favorable ratios should be maintained or even improved. As the fall progresses the deer become more and more secretive. The best hunting techniques include walking, and watching and listening while sitting with your back to a tree. . So what do you think Bearfoot1? Hunters are required to report their mountain lion harvest information to the Arizona Game and Fish Department within 48 hours of taking a mountain lion. Arizona Game & Fish Department, Region II- 928-774-5045 Create a free account to read the rest of this elk hunting note! If you are considering hunting mountain lions in Unit 12 for the first time, consider hiring a good houndsman/guide to increase you likelihood of success. The Grand Canyon National Park is not open to hunting. BOOK YOUR HUNT. Grouse often flush at close range in thick cover so be prepared for quick shooting. Check for current or recent wildfires in this area. These areas are open to foot and horseback travel only. Overview: Unit 12A is home to one of the most unique game animals in Arizona and perhaps the nation. Also, Jacobs Lake is about 30 minutes from the canyon and a great spot to camp. This game bird tends to concentrate around water sources, especially along steep cliffs. It is very sandy and requires 4-wheel drive. This squirrel is most active early in the morning and just prior to dark and is always associated with Ponderosa Pines. Yearly reported harvest figures fluctuate around 1 dozen lions with most of these animals taken by houndsmen during the winter months. Update: For the past few years, bison have been seen near Wall Lake, as well as along Forest Service Roads 219B, 223, 270, and 610. Salt licks are a great attractant for deer and provide the same opportunity as waterholes. About Us; Staff; Camps; Scuba. For a resident, it only takes ~9-10 bonus point to be guaranteed an archery tag in 5B South, likewise for 5B North. The unit's terrain is very rocky with rugged mountains. Therefore, chances for success are very low. Grand Canyon National Park, North Rim 928-638-7888, view harvest thresholds and zone closures. No motor vehicles are allowed in the Paria Canyon/Vermilion Cliffs Wilderness Area. Full Guided hunts. A map of the zones can be found at Mountain Lion management zone map. Hunt the travel corridors up or down from water and you will improve your odds. A good pair of binoculars and spotting scope will improve the chance of taking a trophy bull. Watching waterholes that have turkey sign around them provide the turkey hunter with the best opportunity to bag a bearded turkey during this often dry time of the year. Overview: Chukar Partridge is an overlooked game bird in this unit. Use the link, or scan code to get to this page and select the questionnaire for your hunt. Overview: Unit 12A is home to one of the most unique game animals in Arizona and perhaps the nation. After a snow storm a hunter will drive the roads found within the Unit 12 winter deer range early in the morning looking for tracks. Birds are usually found in isolated coveys, and can (usually do) descend thousands of feet into inaccessible canyons after being flushed. Phone us at 928-713-4329 with any questions you may have. Arizona hunters still have an opportunity to receive a hunt permit-tag for select 2022 elk hunts. If you have a 12B tag and are trying to decide whether to hunt 12BW or the Paria Plateau, there are a few additional things that you should consider. This is a large area, so scouting will be beneficial. On a 12A early hunt, once again, dont bother with pinyon/juniper habitat types unless it has snowed. Elevations vary from 3,000' to more than 9,200', with a large plateau, the Kaibab, comprising a majority of the unit. Keep movements to a minimum, scan the surrounding area constantly, and listen for turkey vocalizations. Studies have shown that the Paunsaugunt deer arrive in Unit 12B in mid-October through early November, extending southward about 8 miles into Arizona. As the fall progresses the deer become more and more secretive. Grand Canyon National Park, North Rim 928 638-7870 Address 123 Main Street New York, NY 10001, Hours MondayFriday: 9:00AM5:00PM Saturday & Sunday: 11:00AM3:00PM. Lost Canyon Hunts. There are very few elk in this unit. During the spring hunt be prepared for cold temperatures and even snow. The most common technique for lion hunting in 12A is similar to that used throughout the Rim country in Arizona. Overview: Desert bighorn sheep were eliminated from Unit 12B in the early 1900s probably due to diseases they received from interacting with domestic sheep. Not all weather elements are available within the unit. On the ever in demand 12A late hunt, pray (if religious) for snow. The health and longevity of this winter range is critical to the long term sustainability of the 12A deer herd. The lion population in 12A is a migratory population of roughly 60-80 animals with the lions essentially following the deer herd as it migrates from summer to winter ranges. Worst case you get to explore az with some friends! Check stock tanks for elk use (tracks) prior to the season. Concentrate your efforts in areas with waterholes (not necessarily on the water), as the plateau is often dry at this time of the year. The Kaibab uplift extends into Utah about 15 miles, so a big bull might wander to the south and spend summer up in the high country (the Kaibab runs for 60 miles above 8000 ft and down at the GC park boundary it's over 9000). The vegetation in this area ranges from Great Basin desert scrub and desert grassland to pinyon-juniper and pine-oak woodlands. Although these are a little tougher hunts, a trophy Arizona elk is definitely a likely possibility to harvest. No motor vehicles are allowed in the Paria Canyon/Vermilion Cliffs Wilderness Area. Elk tags are offered thru the draw system. The state line is only marked at dirt road crossings. Being in position at first shooting light can be critical as the big boys are often bedded down for the day within minutes of the sun breaking the horizon. This is my first year being drawn for elk and got a tag for all 12 and 13 units for any elk and this tag is good until April of 19. I had a similar tag 10 years ago for the Kaibab proper. Yearly reported harvest figures fluctuate around 1 dozen lions with most of these animals taken by houndsmen during the winter months. The elevation in this area ranges from approximately 1,650' on the plateau region to 8,028' on Mount Trumbull. Do you have landowner tags, lease land, or have an lodge? Create a free account to read the rest of this access note! Hunters are required to report their mountain lion harvest information to the Arizona Game and Fish Department within 48 hours of taking a mountain lion. These areas are open to foot and horseback travel only. AS a reminder: Dont stand really close to edge, the sandstone/ granite crumbles with very little weight or movement, you dont want to see the bottom or top, depending on which way your falling on the way down. While realistically many of the heard bulls with average 280-330" in both units. I did find some ancient droppings from over a year before but no elk. Likewise, hunters who want to hunt the Paria Plateau must apply for a 12B permit. John is that a unit that can produce a monster bull? The fall hunt is often characterized by warm to hot daytime temperatures and afternoon rains. Arizona Unit 8 Elk Hunting. Other Pertinent Climate Information Unit 12A continues to provide the turkey hunter and/or wildlife enthusiast a unique opportunity to observe Merriams Turkeys. G&F has enough problems with buffalo in that area and doesn't want ANY elk getting established in the Kaibab. Use common sense; dont take shortcuts as they often take a lot longer than the more sensible route. This area will provide an excellent opportunity for archery and early season general deer hunters for the foreseeable future. This area will provide an excellent opportunity for archery and early season general deer hunters for the foreseeable future. After this hunt, you will know what hunt never to apply for again, other then Lots of deer in whole area, and some monsters. Thanks a ton ! The units we hunt in Arizona: Units 6,8,10,12a,17,19,20,23. The prepared hunter is often the successful hunter. Some tags in the state may take upwards of two and a half decades to draw as a non-resident. Areas: As stated earlier, concentrate your efforts in areas with large Ponderosa Pine trees and focus your observation skills on the forest floor. The average age of a buck harvested on the late hunts has climbed from just over two years of age to over 4 years of age in the past several years, yearling buck weights have stabilized at an acceptable level in recent years and as a result antler development has been excellent. Often roosting turkeys will respond to these calls giving a hunter a location to begin the mornings hunt. Areas: Pronghorn in House Rock Valley generally tend to be located within 6 to 7 miles of the base of the Kaibab Plateau. The north rim of the Paria Canyon is accessed from Big Water, Utah and also requires 4-wheel drive due to soft sand. Scuba Certification; Private Scuba Lessons; Scuba Refresher for Certified Divers; Try Scuba Diving; Enriched Air Diver (Nitrox) Concentrate on areas that are more inaccessible. Proactive management steps in the form of an Alternative Management Plan and a large scale habitat improvement project in cooperation with the USFS have been taken by the Arizona Game and Fish Department in order to maintain a favorable buck:doe ratio, increase the representation of older age bucks in the population, ensure long term high quality habitat, and provide for greater hunt success. From the North: None Camping is allowed on BLM administered lands over most of the unit. If you are considering hunting mountain lions on the Kaibab for the first time consider hiring a good houndsman/guide to increase your likelihood of success. Many hunters utilize horses and mules, snowmobiles, and other recreational vehicles to overcome these access limitations. Elk in those areas are VERY few and far between, and if I were you, I wouldn't waste any more $$ on attempting to hunt it. During the fall hunt gas, food, and lodging can be found in Fredonia, Jacob Lake, and near DeMotte Park. Tree stands up or down canyon from waters can be excellent and reduce the inevitable territorial dispute with other hunters over the waterhole. Cross country travel is not allowed on BLM lands. No off-road travel by motor vehicles is allowed. Note: 12BW is the entire portion of 12B that is west of BLM road 1065 (House Rock Valley/ Coyote Valley Road), excluding the Paria Plateau. If I was going in to there I'd focus on the Mt. Pronghorn are also found along the edge of the plateau in the pinyon-juniper transition zone. As mentioned above, the main concentration of antelope is in House Rock Valley. 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