Answer: I've never bothered fermenting, and nor have any of my friends. Around the time that flower heads start to form and the plants are fully grown, the bottom leaves will be ready to pick. Answer: You keep them, yellowing means that they're partly cured. I've gone 2 weeks to 6 months. Question: I am following your method of growing tobacco at home, though I am getting my brown leaves within a few weeks or less. I think I'll give this a go - nothing to lose, all my hair is already goneand I might learn a thing or two! Fire-cured tobacco is hung in large barns where fires of hardwoods are kept on continuous or intermittent low smoulder and takes between three days and ten weeks, depending on the process and the tobacco. Wash off any dirt, though. Do tobacco seeds need a period of cold dormancy in order to grow? Haven't noticed. and is it any good? I then dip the jar, short of the lid, back into the boiling water using the tongs. I spent many years at sea in the MN, as Captain since 1975, so cost wasn't an issue then. Isn't it possible to sterilize the pile of tobacco and stop all the fermentation by having temperature too high? For some, growing tobacco is an absolute obsessionand its easy to see why! Fire curing produces a tobacco low in sugar and high in nicotine. Adding moisture to cure is not a good idea, the bud should be dried properly first. -Week 4 the tobacco chamber should have the sweet smell of a walk in humidor. I've been drawing from T.A. This process takes about 3-4 weeks.2) Fermentation: Sweating out ammonia, and a few other complicated chemical processes. Just let the plants grow as shown in my hub, don't fuss over them as they're hardy, just make sure that they have at least a 2 ft spacing from each other or other plants, they'll transplant OK at this size if you have to, but better if you don't as it checks their growth, not a great worry. Dedicated home growers use old refrigerators with a heat source. , i bought 1 kg virginia tobacco leaves, its sun cured, but its really smells bad !! Very educational. Its been about 6-8 weeks of drying. Tobacco seedlings ready for transplanting outside in the sun. You don't have to fork out another $2.50 for seed. Question: Is planting tobacco summer (start of January) ok? Fermentation is the limiting factor for hobbyist!3) Finally aging which we are all familiar with, which includes factory storage and storage in a humidor. Ive not got the Virginia one Ive got has some random Peruvian ones that has loads of nicotine on the leaves its oily. wikiHow's Content Management Team carefully monitors the work from our editorial staff to ensure that each article is backed by trusted research and meets our high quality standards. Anyine got pointers on aging? Answer: I remove the stems because they're woody and would produce lumpy tobacco. Answer: It shouldn't make any difference. Soon, you'll notice that tobacco is quite an attractive ornamental with small, pretty, pink flowers. I also ground some into a powder snuff, I added a cotton ball dipped in scented oil for a week or so to add flavor and scent then removed the cotton ball later. on Step 6, Do you ferment all leaves that you want to use as in the cigar or just the outer leaf of the cigar. For three months of winter, we have occasional light frosts, bitterly strong winds, and some hail. Reactions: Oldfella, Charly, Knucklehead and 1 other person S Smileysmile66 Active Member Joined Apr 5, 2019 Messages 25 Points 3 Location Stockholm, Sweden Once sealed, age for about two months at room temperature or slightly above. Tobacco plants nearing maturity. Grow your own tobacco while you can, - and your own carrots, - and your own cabbages, soon legislation will stop us from doing all that too because we'd be taking the living from the maws poor supermarket empires. If your bud is over dried, adding moisture isn't going to help the cure. On the tobacco front. Answer: Curing tobacco is pretty much just letting it dry until it turns goldish. Almost magically, theyll regain their pliability with a little moisture. Keep their soil moist but not soggy when they're young. Yes I agree that there was too much moisture. Leaves that dry too fast may remain green. Tinned tobacco will too, but not to the extent that it would in the tin. Remember that smoking tobacco probably would not have caught on if it weren't for the process of cramming it into barrels and sending it on a sea voyage in sailing ships - which is how the above process was discovered. Sprinkle seeds very lightly over the soil (but don't cover them with dirt). Just what I was looking for answered a couple of questions I had never thought about, I will be starting them off over the next two months now it is Sunday 3rd of March 2019, (I am a slow starter). Does the Brod and Taylor bread proofing cabinet work good for cureing tobacco? Don't look now, but you've probably already done itwell enough for the average punter, at least. Question: When the bottom leaves go yellow before flowering starts, do I cut off the yellowing leaves and dispose of them or keep them? Since yous have given me some ideas i will give you a fact. During two years in Vanuatu where home-grown tobacco is available in the markets (cured and twisted into braids) I discovered I could make a "brew" just as good as my favourite pipe tobacco "Amphora". After drying the leaves then adding flavour such as vodka and then slicing/cutting would I store the tobacco in a air tight container? Curing can last anywhere from two weeks minimum, to up to six months for some strains. Problem solved! Also, thank you for this article. Finally, pour the hot water to the level of the tobacco in the jars. A factory barn with hundreds of thousands of hands fermenting, wellthat would be a whole different level of aroma.Q: Surf Monkey Coconut, your insurance agent called me looking for you. Answer: If it works for you, keep doing it. I did miss a stage in my above aromatic observationsbetween the wet grass and raisin stage there was a strong cereal smell..like toasted corn flakes, which probably lasted for the entire 2nd week. Use peppermint oil mixed with water to mist your leaves as they are hanging. I can't suggest anything other than perhaps swapping it amongst your mates for something with less Kick. To cure my tobacco i air dry it in my shed. As you know i don't smoke anymore, but gotta thank John Keye for the taxes, and the opportunity for extra income ( wink wink ), just follow the advice given here Jen, you cant go wrong, I gathered some seeds from a garden not knowing it was tobacco.They have grown amazingly.Thanks to your practical info I'm setting about drying the leaves .Might find a use for my grandads pipes in a rack yet .Thanks. When they're about four inches high, and after the last of the frost, plant them out. Im growing in mini greenhouses in a south facing window. Answer: Until the leaves are dry and brown/yellow, after hanging, several weeks or in an oven at low heat an hour or so. Monitor the leaves periodically to make sure they dont turn moldy, and remove any leaves that do. When I think of ammonia, I think of a sharp biting smell, the chemical smell from either a bottle of windex or urine..(I once had mice as pets, which had that horrible smell) When I was researching tobacco fermentation I pictured those fermentation barns in central America to be awful, perhaps like walking into a tear gas chamberTaking this into consideration I have my fermentation cooler in an unused bathroom which has the ceiling vent on a timer (it turns on for 10 mins every hour). What I can find worryingly little information on is how long you need to ferment it for, depending on what you want to do with it. If you want plant them elsewhere, they'll grow for a later crop. Your question and reply precedes this answer. Let . Happy from Toronto, Canada on July 16, 2014: Great hub. proberly down to the paper.. the best way i found was hung up in a garrage. We would have been umming and ahhhing until the cows came home. Start the tobacco seedlings no sooner than 4 weeks before the spring night time temps are 50 degrees or so. For menthol I just added some mint leaves. I suggest that you let only one of your plants go to flower for seeds for next season's crop. I assume that you want to either roll a cigarette or use a pipe. mayb to much nitrogen locked in the leaf what do you think, Reply The fermentation cooler I built is, in my humble opinion, is a very cheap and affordable chamber for the home enthusiast. How soon before I can smoke them? It's only a few. The same rules apply: pinch out or otherwise remove them. I have 4 that I cycle between curing jars to monitor humidity in the jars. Spray water, port, rum, honey dissolved in any of the aforementioned, or pretty well any consumable liquid. Curing cannabis buds Once buds are dry, it's time to cure them. Question: I bought some homegrown tobacco but it has a dark greenish look to it. March-June,get started TODAY! Spread the leaves out so they're at least 1 inch (2.5 cm) apart to give them plenty of space to dry. But the future looks a lot more brighter. Although I may not be identifying the ammonia as released from tobacco leaves correctly. The Arena Media Brands, LLC and respective content providers to this website may receive compensation for some links to products and services on this website. He constantly kept preaching about this. The Old Firm (author) from Waikato/Bay Of Plenty, New Zealand on March 31, 2014: Hi there Blond Logic, Tobacco originated from around your way, and I'm told that all sorts can be found there, so good luck in your quest for seeds. 3 years ago. Answer: From seedling to mature plant (in a temperate climate) in about three months if planted in late Spring - early Summer; longer if planted later. on Introduction. Do you ferment leaves for smoking tobacco? Remove the leaves and tear them off of the stems before storing or using your tobacco. For the Jars, the pump alone is $65 for the jars. Unplugging would have some impact on the fermentation process depending on the length of interruption, but better to unplug than to not have a house when you get back. The seeds will pass through while most of the rubbish will stay behind. Also how do you keep the humidity. Make sure kiln has good air circulation and that jars aren't touching walls to prevent condensation in jars. Gently shake the sieve. Break the seedheads into it and rub the central core to get the seeds off. Just to clarify Im not trying to cheat my way out of setting up a kiln. The site loading pace is amazing. It's fine to jar bulk tobacco; it will resume fermentation. For tips on how to separate the tobacco from the stem when the leaves are dry, read on! I want to try it. Basically you need heat (approx 120 degrees) and humidity of about 75%, if this can be sustained for approx 4-6 weeks, fermentation will be complete. That being said, so can drinking, singing off-key, eating too much (or not enough) meat, and so on. I have it running on a low heat for up to two hours checking on the tobacco and turning it throughout the process. The tobacco color should also change to a much darker hue of brown. Is there anything I can do? Some are undoubtedly better, but I don't think many would be easier or cheaper than the method I've described, and I know what I've written about works because I've done it. Throw all the ingrediants into a pot and bring to the boil then give the cut tobacco a good spray and then let dry.Got desperate this year and smoking tobacco that has been hanging for only 4 weeks and has taken the harshness out. If you over-do it and it gets too brittle a fine mist from a cheap hothouse mister should fix things. Remember to save your seed for the next crop. Cold and frost will affect your crop yield. Air curing works by hanging the leaves in a dark place for a few weeks. Answer: Let them become almost dry but not brittle, take out the middle rib and any others that are large (who wants to smoke ribs?) Tobacco isn't picky. Canadian Virginian plant, so I've not looked back. You need to leave some free space for airflow, so err on the side of under versus over-filling the jars. Fill your curing jars 75% full. Hello to all who read this and also to future me who is trying to figure out what I did that one time. Answer: It's fine, (If you want to speed drying put some leaves in a VERY low oven for an hour or more until they are dry enough to suit). Treat it as you would tomatoes. Keeping it right in the middle keeping the leaves are warm and supple seems to be the goal..The layer of wet napkins and saran wrap helps a little to hold in moisture between mistings. If it looks a bit damp or won't light he sticks it in the warming tray of his oven for a while. The Old Firm (author) from Waikato/Bay Of Plenty, New Zealand on September 11, 2014: Great stuff John, (We're in for a long summer, my banana plant set its first bunch a month ago, although the stalks are still all brown with dead and wind battered leaves; and the raspberry canes are budding) Please keep us posted on how you're going. (Haha.. If it's too rainy or it gets too much water, the tobacco gets weak and thin. the temp is 60-65oF humidity 60-65% for the cure i wouldn't go down passed 50oF or above 75 the high temp will evaporate trichomes and low temps will make the heads brittle and fall off easily. This article could not be written any better! Mary Wickison from USA on March 23, 2014: After years of nagging (I mean politely requesting) my husband to stop, now I find your page. These plants are less than three months older than seedlings. I can't be bothered, think up a few for yourself. Allow 2 meters headroom if you keep them inside and remember to pick out the sideshoots growing in the leaf joins (just like tomatoes do) they can be planted too for a later crop. Some leaves are 500-600mm in length and still rather green. Trying to perfect the cutting now but am very happy with my "own grown". (I am, however, all for fermenting sugar in water and putting it through a still, I may be doing that later today). I suggest that you then roll up the leaves and slice thinly with a very sharp knife. Don't humidify kiln to prevent rusty lids. How Often Should I Water Tobacco Plants? The Old Firm (author) from Waikato/Bay Of Plenty, New Zealand on May 16, 2014: Hi there Rob n Rose, sorry for the tardy reply. A friend hangs his tobacco for about three months, by which time it has both a nice colour and texture. You'll know they're ready for use when theyve turned dark brown and the edges of each leaf are curled. Thanks for putting it together, at least I know what a tobacco plant looks like now. The Old Firm (author) from Waikato/Bay Of Plenty, New Zealand on October 21, 2015: Hi Guys (and Gals) sorry that I've been AWOL for a while. Any concerns of the foam smell transferring to the tobacco?A: I know the foam smell you are talking about, Its an undeniable chemically semi-sweet smellI've experienced it in the past when using a hot wire to cut foam blocksno doubt very toxic! I know people who smoke tobacco at every shade, as the whim and their approach to curing takes them, and they seem no worse off than off the shelf smokers. Multiply it by 52 to find what it costs you a year (over $2,500?). As they dry they will yellow. I got tired of fighting past the damn things to get to my garden shed and pulled them out last May, still healthy and hardy, with a root system the size of a football. Secondly, don't break the law. This seems to be the right amount of heat! Thanks for the nice comments. Live in California. whoever they may be. i will try outside next year just abit worrie about things eatting them .. the slugs around here seem to have a nicotine addiction. I'm planning on air curing the Tennessee, as it suggests in the name of it, and the. I have found your article and follow everything as you recommended but in the end, I am disappointed. At which temperature fermentation stops? The Old Firm (author) from Waikato/Bay Of Plenty, New Zealand on June 16, 2016: Hi there gepeTooRs , nice to know that you approve, although I can't take any credit for the loading pace, that's all HubPages doing. This is an excellent time to test whether you have dried your nugs properly. Paper towels misted and saturated with distilled water is placed on top of the cured tobacco hands with some plastic wrap over it to hold in the moisture, I do a good deal of misting with distilled water about twice a day. This method of curing will produce tobacco leaves that are, relative to other curing methods, low in sugar, high in nicotine, and sweet in flavor! What you do with it then is your own damned business. In this fermenter, these conditions are achieved by a light bulb heat source, directed by a reflector dish towards the pile of air cured tobacco under it. Fred Hanna has a method of quickly aging tobacco. Just wanted to see how it's done. Pull out any small plants or weeds that try to crowd each tobacco plant. Hi how is everyone in this tuff times hope all is ok ive started growing tobacco plant and im wondering do i have to use a cooler fan if curing leaves in a attic, thanks good info no frills- i've got 40 seeds in seedling mix indoors 7 germinated so far. An air-conditioned home would probably be too dry for air-curing tobacco. The Old Firm (author) from Waikato/Bay Of Plenty, New Zealand on December 23, 2014: Hi John, I hope that all's well with you now. Tobacco is an amazingly prolific plant. Was going to make a wooden box but this was easier as I had the bits. So how do you raise the delicate little darlings? Thank you so much for putting up this site. This would be those with the traditional mason jar design. I have dried and cut one leaf for a try. :). It must work, his mates think the stuffs great. Will have to look into this further but this has certainly been of great help to start-off. I still have the 1 oz of Light Fire Cure in the press. The Old Firm (author) from Waikato/Bay Of Plenty, New Zealand on March 17, 2016: Our Gestapo thugs will shoot and kill a man for pointing a gun at a police dog, shoot a fleeing thief in the back and beat his dying body with baton tourches and find themselves not at fault, then run around kissing a drug pusher who shot at and wounded 4 police, presumably because of "political correctness" - and a 'relly who's a local senior cop. If you hit 71% or greater, you will have to take the bud out to dry more. The Old Firm (author) from Waikato/Bay Of Plenty, New Zealand on March 20, 2014: I wrote a month or what back that I had started harvesting and drying down here in North Canty, and being the impatient bugger that I am, have started smoking it now, and am pleasantly surprised with the result. Also slugs & snails, etc take their share. Before starting here's a small note of discretion: Typically tobacco growing hobbyist raise and cure these plants for the pure enjoyment of taking care of this fast growing monster! Can we buy seeds direct from you? Tho it is now. And I always unplugged the light when leaving the house. A good recommended fill blend for a home grown cigar is 30% Havana leaf and 70% Virginia leaf with a Havana wrapper.-Cheap, light weight foam cooler: if you ever wondered what to do with that leaky foam coolerhere it is!-Corded clamp light reflector light fixture, (avail. You probably displaced 12 cabbages to grow enough tobacco to keep you in cancer sticks for a year. I smoke about 50grm/week -say 1 3/4 oz/week. The seedlings are 2.5 inches tall now. oops, I must have had a couple to many ales the last time I wrote in. It does thrive in rich, well-draining soils, but it'll make do with what it gets. Pots in the greenhouse should be fine, tobacco's very hardy. Btw i subbed you on youtube, Reply Now, any ideas on how I could take this to the next level & make it into clove cigarettes? In about two weeks, the seedlings should start showing. Question: How long would tobacco take to grow in a tropical climate like Australia? Stems retain moisture and may increase the chance of mold in storage. When using plastic bag style do you move them around and how often do you water with the plastic bag style. The following is a helpful "Q and A" following this project. In terms of my fermentation chamber, there is no problems with overheating or meltingyet! Also does anyone know how to make Copenhagen style "dip"? Have fun, good luck, and thanks for dropping in. bumptious bureaucrats and politicians are revolting species, but i believe there's a special spot reserved in hell for those that don white coats and the mantle of 'oficial'. Fairly certain he's going to have a good read. Hi guys. I'd also suggest that you let the plants flower and save the seed, you'll get enough to plant half of Kansas and be very popular with your smoking friends! You will also have healthier, more mature/thicker leaves that will respond better to air curing and fermentationa little more meat to chew so-to-speak. Some years ago I stumbled upon tobacco seeds (for the first time) in a Richters plant/seed catalogue out of Canada ( I live in the U.S). Not to mention the moaning at the forever price hikes in Tobacco. The most obvious answer, but not necessarily the right one, is trying different seeds. I think I'm going to try to grow some to use for smudging and offerings (Spiritual purposes). These are the same plants as in the previous photo, eleven days later (25Jan09). If you're in NZ get growing folks , and good luck. During the fermentation, there are several aromatic stages: It improves with age so long as it does not dry out. In the next batch I think I will see if placing the leaves in a large plastic bag will work better. Pinch them out as well. This process is all done quickly. Low and behold, I have 2 tobacco plants growing, which surprised me as the cigars I buy are aged. Put tobacco in jar. Content is for informational or entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for personal counsel or professional advice in business, financial, legal, or technical matters. Compared with correctly grown plants. Smokingpipes is your one stop shop for Tobacco Jars Pipe Accessories and all your tobacco smoking needs. How to Tell How Old Cigarettes Are and If Theyre Stale. 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