Wilson Pickett Is Curry already the greatest shooter of all time? Albert King: 1, Posted by Classic Rock on Monday, 02/11/2013 @ 20:53pm. Solomon Burke Both were the darlings of the same type of audience in their day, but REM was a very different type of band. They were that good, and everybody knew it. Most influential besides Beatles, Elvis and Chuck: Black Sabbath: 10/10 Since there are 221 as of now, two or three more should be promoted to level 5 (and more to the other levels), if only to maintain the proportions. Pearl Jam and Nina Simone are borderline Level 2/3 acts, in my opinion. Handy, Roy Brown, Charley Patton, Lightin Hopkins, Percy Mayfield, Big Mama Thornton and Cab Calloway as well as a few jazz singers like Ornette Coleman, Lee Morgan, and Bill Evens. LEVEL 3 ?? -U2 I have seen that. Del Shannon (Yes, feel free to flame me! Prince: 10/10 John Fogerty of CCR is pretty deserving in this respect too. If you consider what the Velvet Underground did to not be metal, then the Velvets. "Come On Do The Jerk" The Righteous Brothers , The T-Bones "Going to a Go-Go" The Rolling Stones, Phil Collins, The Hags, and Secret Affair. 2) THE TEMPTATIONS at # 67 Admittedly quite bad, but he's already represented without the halo effect. Level 3 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Miracles_discography The Jimi Hendrix Experience 87. A Fish Called Wanda Roy Orbison 78. Journey: 3/10 I have compiled all of them into the list below with corresponding dates. Seriously? 3. Nine Inch Nails-Level 2 Star Offline Posts: 2664 Respect: 0. Not sure if I spelled his last name right. Is Harden the NBAs best scorer since Michael Jordan? Simmons believes that Nolan Ryan was a Tier 4 Baseball HoFer, while acknowledging that several people wouldn't put Nolan Ryan in the Hall at all. 149. The Band: 9/10 2. That made for a conveniently proportionate pyramid: 12 acts in Level 5, 24 in Level 4, 36 in Level 3, 48 in Level 4 and 60 in Level 5. Part 3 coming soon! Parliament - Funkadelic: 10/10 Whoopee. Posted by Zach on Wednesday, 10/30/2013 @ 17:40pm, Hi, Zach. Hal Greer, 54. From what I can gather, they were celebrated because they never quite made it, and because, as is wont to happen, their creative limitations were reinterpreted as a profound artistic statement. 2015 The "5" Royales Green Day is maybe a 2. 36 Sly and the Family Stone Ray Allen [up from Level 1, below McAdoo]. Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five Yes Most nicest inductee? NIN: 9/10 1999 Greg Willard Spirit Award; NCAA Season Awards. Star in 1972, The Jackson Five. The people at the top are more of the big timers, to me. I didn't ask for it. "As Bill Simmons said in his original article though, this is subjective. Some great musicality But, say, Aerosmith is #3 ? Carole King: 5/10 Did they have transcendent songs and albums or memorable moments? 2/10 = Failure "Swept For You Baby" The Sylvers, The Blenders, The Tamlins (as Sweat For You Baby). 4. I suppose you could make a case for T. Rex, Depeche Mode, or Whitney Houston moving up a level, but keeping them in Level 1 is fine. However, I do disagree with you on Neil Young's ranking. I think that eventually Rush will be recognized, in the future, as a 5th tier band. Elvis Costello and the Attractions Jackson Browne: 7/10 I don't have a problem with ranking KD over those guys. Bruce Springsteen: 10/10 Monty Python & The Holy Grail Posted by Jason Voigt on Monday, 09/24/2018 @ 16:47pm. Foo Fighters-1, but since they're a first ballot HOFer 2 might be more befitting Posted by Zach on Wednesday, 10/30/2013 @ 23:07pm. Heart (high 3rd) 34. Unless the answer to this is the Invisible Band, you've got a problem here. The Book of Basketball - Bill Simmons 2010-12-07 Most unworthy: For me, Percy Sledge, Laura Nyro, and Del Shannon stand out. Jay - Z: 10/10 Steely Dan: 8/10 1986 5. Neil Diamond DEFINITELY !! I guess SONGWRITING , PRODUCING, and INFLUENCE are considered more IMPORTANT than flashy choreography,flashy clothes,and Pop success!! 5. Shaq, 12. Oh found NIN. Did they hit sell millions of records, have over a dozen hits or win a lot of awards? 223. Posted by Michael W on Friday, 05/21/2021 @ 14:58pm. The people who made a name IN Rock and Roll. AC/DC: 9/10 Steve Miller: Level 1, Posted by SotN on Friday, 12/18/2015 @ 03:31am. Dennis Johnson, 61. Call it elitist, call it exclusionary, but I've experienced a major shift in how I listen to music and evaluate it. 1 bestselling book from 2009. He wound up avoiding being lumped in to any Rock and Roll labeling likely because he was being marketed to a wider and more mature audience than the industry was marketing towards for the acts that got lumped into the early Rock and Roll label. Were they the greatest team of all time? 2004 128. Its impossible to figure out Stephen Currys phenomenal decade without hashing through everything that happened that night. Bowie is so upstream of many, many acts. ***. 2Pac - 2 "Whole Lotta Shakin' In My Heart (Since I Met You)" The Hellacopters, Marv Johnson. Level Five: All those folks on the "Ancient Aliens" Series (we'll need some laughs besides the Stooges), Posted by Cheesecrop on Thursday, 10/31/2013 @ 17:11pm. Talented as hell, but weird as hell. The charter of the Pyramid states no MVP can drop below Level 3 unless it's for a good reason. Nina Simone: 9/10 Eagles: 9/10 Otis Redding: 10/10 I would also move Aretha Franklin, Little Richard & Bob Marley up to 5 as well. David Bowie, Velvet Underground, Frank Zappa, Beastie Boys, Patti Smith, Joni Mitchell, Black Sabbath and The Stooges Monty Python's The Meaning of Life Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Favorite induction year: 1986, 1987, 1988, 1989, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2006, 2013. Great concept! 22. Most quiet inductee? In my honest opinion, Rush should also be placed a lot higher, at least, preferably in the middle of the 4th tier, slightly lower than Pink Floyd and slightly below, soon to be inducted, Yes. The Book of Basketball - Bill Simmons 2010-12-07 . 2005 It started out as 12 and then multiples of 12 but you have had several yeas of new inductees since then. Is anyone ever going to move up fro level 4 to level 5? Yes - 2 (they could be a 1 too but I like them a lot and they are one of the definitive progressive rock bands so I upped them to a 2) :), Posted by Cheesecrop on Friday, 03/8/2013 @ 15:51pm. Ricky Nelson: 9/10 Clearly one of the 10 best players in the league in the latter half of this decade, but got saddled with an incompetent front office. Meanest inductee: John Fogerty, Axl Rose, Eddie Van Halen, Johnny Rotten, Jerry Lee Lewis, Mike Love. Posted by Jordan Einstein on Tuesday, 05/10/2022 @ 16:06pm. Agreed. Duane Eddy How did the series flip? -Hard to say ultimately, it's really about the music and their commitment to it. this is a statement of fact, no judgement involved. 76. Your favorite inductees (You can pick at least 7)? Most mean inductee? Brenda Lee The Rock Pyramid is missing the class of 2017 and 2018 inductees. 194. Donna Summer (Level 2) 1989 The Ink Spots how NBA Hall of Fame inductees should be chosen but how the institution must be reshaped from the ground up, the result being the Pyramid: Simmons's one-of-a-kind five-level shrine to the ninety-six greatest players in the history of pro The DC5: 5/10 The pyramid is done by the site administration while the rankings are done by site users, so it's more a case of differing opinions. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. 7. Ray Charles, James Brown & The Famous Flames, Aretha Franklin, Fats Domino, The Velvet Underground, Muddy Waters, Bob Dylan, The Rolling Stones, Black Sabbath, Queen, David Bowie, Buddy Holly and the Crickets, Sam Cooke, and The Jimi Hendrix Experience are all on an equal plane of influence with those three. Biggie Smalls-4 MotorTrend Ultimate Adventure visits the Georgia Racing Hall of Fame: Join us for our upcoming events! Bill Simmonss new podcast breaks down the NBAs most important games, players, and teams, extending and reinventing his New York Times no. Quietest: Musically, James Taylor. Marvin Gaye - The initial pyramid had 96 players after 64 NBA seasons, so 1.5 players per season. Dire Straits Almost all of their hits were self-written, making them unique among Motown acts. * This only goes to the Rockist group who mostly bash on these types of artist and keep saying that the formerly snubbed-artist should be in already. As far as the 2013 inductees are concerned and their tier placement is concerned: http://whoisbigger.com/entity/Category:Rock_and_Roll_Hall_of_Fame_inductees Ruth Brown Were Shaq and Kobe always destined to turn on each other? Nirvana and Radiohead belongs in the third. Foreword by Malcom Gladwell "The work of a true fan . Favorite induction year? t. rex - 2, Posted by Michael on Tuesday, 03/24/2020 @ 17:21pm, When this pyramid was constructed, there were (IIRC) approximately 180 performer acts in the R&R HoF. 3. Not to be too much of a Ramones basher, but look at the bands they rated above. Thank you. Was it based on their brilliant songs? 10. 1988 Woody Guthrie Her solo career wasn't any more impactful than any of the other artists on Level 1. Eurythmics (Level 1) James Harden is no slouch. Whatever his legacy, he'll be remembered for taking that road. Fats Domino Dolly Parton (may argue for level 2 but I feel even being a well-known figure in country does not translate to being "rock royalty" just like Davis, Simone, etc.) Please answer the best you can. 1992 Professor Longhair -Quietest? The 2011 Finals might be the single most impressive accomplishment by a NBA player in my lifetime. 2003 "You're So Fine and Sweet" - The Undertakers. Michael Jackson: 10/10 The Little Mermaid Joni Mitchell Jay-Z and Biggie Smalls are in the most appropriate level. Patrick Ewing. 23. Metallica Aerosmith: 9/10 58. The Byrds Doobie Brothers-5 1997 Bill Monroe 11. 117. Genesis Well, the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Museum in Cleveland is already shaped like a pyramid2, so it was only natural to take Simmons' baseball idea and apply it to rock and roll. Some QUALIFYING QUESTIONS: Putting him ahead of bands like The Byrds, The Doors, Black Sabbath and most of the other bands on the 3rd tier is ridiculous. Journey R.E.M. 2/10 = Failure Fela Kuti (Level 1) 95. The Four Seasons: 7/10 Simmons, Bill. The Moody Blues, when inducted, should sit on the 5th tier. Parliament - Funkadelic: 10/10 Posted by Mike on Thursday, 02/6/2014 @ 13:48pm, Favorites: Beatles, John Lennon solo, Neil Diamond, Doors, David Bowie, CCR, Curtis Mayfield, Rush, Simon & Gafunkel, Paul Simon solo, Paul McCartney: 8/10 Let's kick this thing off with Bill Simmons' idea for the Basketball Hall of Fame - the Pyramid, he calls it. "Would I Love You" - Len Barry. Posted by Bill G. on Thursday, 01/29/2015 @ 19:58pm. Level 3 by Nash. Oscar Robertson, 10. Eurythmics: 7/10 185. Level 3 Posted by Andrew on Sunday, 05/4/2014 @ 22:12pm. 24. Chicago: 6/10 Huh, forgot that the pyramids criteria was "how well does astrodog know the artist" Posted by GFW on Thursday, 10/31/2013 @ 14:00pm, I'd simply move all the artists out of the 5th region, and sub-let a little space for myself. 1. "The Tracks of My Tears " Linda Ronstadt, Aretha Franklin, Johnny Rivers, Gladys Knight & the Pips, Mongo Santamara, Martha and the Vandellas, Bryan Ferry, Bjrns Vnner (as Ser Jag Ut Att M Bra? -Led Zeppelin, Bob Dylan, the Rolling Stones, James Brown, Aretha Franklin Ramones Bowies, Springsteen, Aretha (at least! Updated, thanks! David Bowie 12. -I'll say Bobby Darin never had a drug problem (that I know of), branched out into different styles, even helped his fellow performers learn how to do their own taxes during the Caravan Of Stars tours. I also love the story about a lady who got a knock on her door and when she opened it it was Pirince and another guy. "Yester Love" Gerald Wilson & His Orchestra Run - DMC: 10/10 Impossible to answer (aka the effects of various substances) - if you just mean flamboyant, then Little Richard. as the going says, money is powerful in human beings life and money rules the world.I'm from a poor family in which I found it hard to feed my family Upgrade Depeche Mode, Whitney Houston, and T. Rex. Depeche Mode-4 You were being facetious, were you not? Skip to secondary content. (This is an incomplete list, as songs by the Miracles continue to be covered by more artists each year) You like what you like. The Miracles, Motown's first group, are the most covered Motown group of all time. The Shirelles: 9/10 And oh, yeah, let's get the Moody Blues IN before we decide which tier they should be on. 177. The Hall of Fame honors graduates of the Army Reserve Officers' Training Corps who have . ******* Some injury issues, but overblown. 5/10 = Average/Borderline "Here I Go Again" Chazz Dixon, Carey Bell, A.J. "You've Got The Love I Need" - J Dilla, Raekwon. I would say Aretha, Bowie, or Springsteen could be moved up to the top rung, Posted by Mike on Monday, 09/16/2019 @ 15:05pm. A couple others like AC/DC I can't in good conscience not include Manu in the Pyramid. 2005 was pretty good too. "According to several websites, the Miracles are one of the most oft-covered groups in recorded history and the most covered Motown group ever. The Stooges: 10/10 Most mean inductee? The Book of Basketball - Bill Simmons 2010-12-07 . Cat Stevens "Do It Baby"- Jimmy Ponder, Red Holt (of Young-Holt Unlimited). "Who's Loving You" The Jackson 5, En Vogue, Terence Trent D'Arby, Brenda Holloway, The Supremes, The Temptations, Honey Cone, Stevie B., Archie Bell & the Drells, Nikka Costa. "Ooo Baby Baby" Linda Ronstadt, Brenda Holloway, Shalamar, Ruby Turner, Sylvester, Spirit Traveler, Five Stairsteps, Zapp, Laura Nyro, Ella Fitzgerald, Honey Cone, Human Nature, Fingazz 2012 Freddie King "A Fork in the Road " Rebbie Jackson Sam and Dave 98. 135. Though if Davis and Simon couldn't be Level 2 I don't see Parton sadly. Thanks! Rush: 2 ARE YOU KIDDING ME ? To learn more or opt-out, read our Cookie Policy. 9/10 = All Time Greats whitney houston - 3 or 4 Adrian Dantley, 75. Dire Straits Joan Baez As a link between boogie-woogie, jump blues, and rhythm & blues, he is a highly important name and should not be ranked lower than less relevant names like Buffalo Springfield, The (Young) Rascals, Jackson Browne, The Righteous Brothers, and Gene Pitney. Posted by Bill G on Wednesday, 05/8/2019 @ 06:56am. Chicago He could've complained about being a 6th man, but didn't. Beck (Level 1 or 2) Rush (middle 4th) Deep Purple (Level 2) These are the misses from the initial Pyramid that I would've liked rectified: Grant Hill (replacing Connie Hawkins - Hawkins should be in the Comets section and Hill should've been in the Pyramid), Alonzo Mourning (replacing Sabonis - same deal with the Hawkins/Hill swap), Tim Hardaway (for Kevin Johnson - I saw both, Hardaway was a better player), Ben Wallace or Dikembe Mutombo (for Horry - I get where he was going with including Big Shot Bob, but one of the other two guys deserved that spot), My toughest omissions from this Pyramid: Amar'e, Billups, Blake, Paul George, Rose. A subreddit dedicated to NBA news and discussion. Simmons shares credit for the idea with his friend Gus Ramsey and Wally Ramsey., 2. Fleetwood Mac Posted by Gary on Friday, 01/4/2019 @ 18:23pm. Artis Gilmore, 87. "Bad Girl" Dazz Band. Rage Against the Machine (Level 1 or 2) Patti Smith it might just represent the next phase of sports commentary."The Atlantic Bill Simmons, the wildly 48. :) He was the best center in the league for 5 years (yes, the competition for that title was, let's say, lacking). "Doggone Right" Bobby Davis. Level 3 ?? Bill Simmons Hall of Fame Pyramid; ABA All-Time Team; NBA & ABA All-Star Game. Jason Voigt, Alice Cooper Ritchie Valens If youre trying to make a case for him being dumb, then KD over those guys is not the way to do it. 17. We all know that not all Hall of Famers were equally important to rock and roll history, so the pyramid simply provides an elegant way to illustrate that fact. None of them were saints though. Over here in Britain May has been a wildlife activist and critic of fox-hunting Deep Purple a 1???" you like simmons a lot. Steve Miller: 3/10 The most obvious one to me is Metallica, who are no brainers for level 4 at least, and could possibly mount a case (admittedly a weak one) for level 5. 42. Their accolades are eerily similar, but I like Wade a little more. Marvin Gaye (Level 5) "Can You Love a Poor Boy" Bobby Vee, Softones, Gil Bernal, Ronnie Walker. Joni Mitchell and Van Morrison at 3 should bump a few from 4.. I actually think that every act up there is almost exactly where they should be. 214. 66. This hierarchy is useful when discussing future Hall of Famers and trying to determine where they might fit in amongst rock royalty (should Nirvana be on Level 3? Best hip-hop act: The Beastie Boys, Public Enemy, Run DMC. "Whatever Makes You Happy"- Jacki Gore, Steve Washington. Move Fleetwood Mac to 4. Parliament - Funkadelic (Level 3) Posted by Follower on Monday, 01/7/2019 @ 21:17pm. The Pretenders: 8/10 2. Bob Cousy, 23. For anyone else that wants to create a pyramid for this year's nominations here is a format for everyone to follow in order to create some structure follow this format. Most nicest inductee? I would've put Whitney Houston at Level 2, or 3 at most, because of how commercially successful she was and influenced a lot of singers to this day. Posted by Scott on Thursday, 10/8/2015 @ 16:53pm, Posted by Scott on Thursday, 10/8/2015 @ 16:55pm. Clyde McPhatter: 8/10 26. 1994 He didn't make ESPN's recent list of the 74 best players ever which is straight dumb. Among these are: A great scorer, but I'm not sure he was ever a good enough all-around player to be the best player on a champ despite that one year with the Nuggets. Steve Nash, 41. Ike and Tina Turner Art is fluid and stuff changes. Duran Duran: 8/10 The Isley Brothers: 9/10 Leonard Cohen: 7/10 Have at it. Billy Joel Clyde McPhatter Madonna: 10/10 Yes - 2 (they could be a 1 too but I like them a lot and they are one of the definitive progressive rock bands so I upped them to a 2) Either Sam Cooke, Fats Domino, Roy Orbison, or anyone from Motown (remember, they were taught how to move about at high society functions). The Moody Blues I would like to see it. Neil Young Level Three: Ramses (Yul Brynner) Does anyone have the new Bill Simmons Pyramid from the Book Of Basketball 2.0? 11. They were the forefathers of "progressive rock," after all. 2022 73. Please if you are tired of poverty and you want to change your status or you are already weathy and you need protection of life,wealth,properties and family member please come and join the help iluminati now and get what you need. Lou Reed: 7/10 He could've won the 2011 MVP. Best outside The US and UK: U2, Neil Young, Rush, Joni Mitchell, Bob Marley. Retired Col. Eric Toler received the Defense Superior Service Medal, Legion of Merit and two Bronze Star Medals during his 27-year military career. My favorite inductees: Elton John, Billy Joel, Rush, Sam Cooke, Buddy Holly & The Crickets, Chuck Berry, The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, The Who, The Eagles, Crosby, Stills, & Nash, Neil Young, Creedence Clearwater Revival, The Doors and several others. 1989 The Soul Stirrers Lennon's massive hypocrisy shouldn't be overlooked either. Little Richard, Metallica, The Jimi Hendrix Experience, AC/DC, and Van Halen would all qualify The Notorious B.I.G.-Level 3 -Weirdest? 8. 1. I have adjustments: 141. The (Young) Rascals: 5/10 GNR: 9/10 7. Cat Stevens/Yusuf Islam: 6/10 At least FIVE ACTS in Level 5 of this Pyramid have PUBLICLY ADMITTED that THEY and/or their MUSIC has been INFLUENCED by Are you serious? Magic, 4. -Non-US or UK? 154. Posted by Tony on Friday, 08/8/2014 @ 17:19pm, Overrated, or too high on the pyramid: Ramones, Elton John, Little Richard, The Clash, Elvis Costello, Aerosmith, Blondie, Alice Cooper, Genesis. The Four Tops: 10/10 Steve Miller Talented as hell, but weird as hell. Joan Baez - 1 72. He's going to jump 30-40 spots regardless. 170. Little Willie John: 6/10 Despite the juvenile attacks, this argument you have made is much more interesting. 2nd tier works. Well, if you honestly believe that the king of weepy singer-songwriters James Taylor (who has no business in any HOF other than the consignment store record bin HOF) did more to develop rock 'n roll (not rock music, that's a needless abbreviation) than The Ventures (with the exception of Booker T and the MG's, the most significant instrumental rock 'n roll band of the 1960s), then I have nothing to say (as Oliver Hardy would have said). "If You Can Want" The Dirtbombs, Barbara McNair, Chazz Dixon. There have been 9 completed seasons since then, so I added 14 new players for a total of 110. I can nitpick about some of the placements, but a solid list nonetheless, I hate the Warriors but this is underselling Curry. Solomon Burke: 7/10 Bill Simmons definitely understands basketball. It's good enough to get him in the bottom end of Level III. Quietest inductee: Brian May, George Harrison, James Taylor. (It's because he covered a lot of country songs in his career.) Fats Domino, Smokey Robinson, Carole King and Curtis Mayfield Albert King: 9/10 Everyone else in that lot is pretty clearly Level 1 to me. The Book of Basketball - Bill Simmons 2010-12-07 NEW YORK TIMES BESTSELLER The NBA according to The Sports Guynow updated with fresh takes on LeBron, the Celtics, and more! Bruce Springsteen Your favorite inductees (You can pick at least 7)? 2. The Stooges Led Zeppelin: 10/10 Curtis Mayfield I'm not going to wade into these waters. Chicago - 2 (they are more than just a garden variety level 1 band, too many hits, if Billy Joel and Rod Stewart are level 2, then Chicago fits) 126. But every 15 that are added should mean one more to Level 5, two more to 4, and so on. If youre curious about Simmons precise words, you can listen to the podcast episode for the ones that have exact dates. John Lennon: 10/10 SMF 2015, Simple Machines. 5/10 = Average/Borderline Bonnie Raitt Was this the best-played and most-loaded series of the decade? Dolly Parton (Level 2) Moody Blues - 2 Where does his beard rank among the NBAs greatest facial hairstyles ever? The luxury of time is that it dispenses with the nonsense, the hipsterism, the favoritism, and leaves the music to stand on its own. The Cars - 1 Connie Hawkins, 99. 3. 63. I personally think Radiohead and U2 and perhaps solo Lennon are 3s, and CSN, Clapton, and maybe BB King or The Byrds belong in 4. I still say they're the most overrated band ever, and should only be on level 2. The Pretenders (Level 2) The 2017 and 2018 inductees are not in the pyramid yet! Metallica also, but stance is just that -stance. Bill Simmons remembers the day when he learned "The Secret" of basketball from Hall of Famer Isiah Thomas, then built his New York Times no. -First ballot? Pearl Jam (they stay the same, I meant for them to be in the middle) Bob Marley: 10/10 I'm also with you on the Byrds being where they are. 4/10 = Marginal 14. I don't where to post this ever since that "Current Hall of Famers" doesn't have a comments, so I have to post it here or in the "The Immortals" page. Best outside US and UK: If Canada counts, then Rush, if Canada doesn't count, then ABBA. "Here I Go Again" Chazz Dixon, Carey Bell, A.J. "My Girl Has Gone" Etienne Daho, Bobby Taylor, Edwyn Collins, Ken Parker. would be thrown in here. I would also put Blue Cheer, Steppenwolf, Mountain, and Iron Butterfly on the pyramid too. Saving Private Ryan But I hope that someday Plastic People of the Universe will get in. 4. "More, More, More of Your Love" Bob Brady & the Con Chords Posted by Navonte Robertson on Monday, 07/26/2021 @ 09:57am. Most weird inductee? Depeche Mode-1 14. Bailey Howell, 104. Pat Benatar 94. "Shop Around" Captain & Tennille, Don Bryant, The Astronauts, The Allusions, and Georgie Fame, Neil Merryweather and Lynn Carey, among numerous others. Buddy Holly & The Crickets: 10/10 If not them, then Hendrix, probably. If anything, some of them deserve to be a 4. Jason Kidd (see above), 46. 119. Posted by John R.C. Santana, unless you're arguing against the Mexican roots. KISS (Level 2) Adande. Booker T & The M.G's: 8/10 Posted by Handsome Bob on Thursday, 05/16/2019 @ 23:04pm. The best of the best. You know what, I think I try to revise Simmons' level description for Rock and Roll. If you want to argue he was a shitty teammate, fine, but on talent and resume, he belongs in the Top 50. Needless to say, Young will be high on the short list (I'm limiting it 10 picks, as I'd rather not expend too much time on what I loathe). 2013 9. Dolly Parton-Level 2-The only caveat is that she isn't strictly rock 'n' roll, like Miles Davis, Nina Simone or Joan Baez, but with songs like Jolene, Coat of Many Colors, 9 to 5, I Will Always Love You etc, I think she deserves this position Just ask Tina! Tina Turner: 9/10 He'll end up as a Level 4 guy when his career is done, but for now, I've slotted him here. 162. 2018 "We've Come Too Far To End It Now"-The Escorts He was (and still is) well-regarded by just about everyone regardless of genre. 12. In the early 90s, by some weird quirk, the music press decided they were the great American band. Whitney Houston: 9/10 Manu was damn good and didn't get the traditional accolades to back it up. Lennon had one brilliant record (his first real solo record) and one decent one (the overrated 'Imagine'), and then some good songs sprinkled amidst a lot of filler and crap. The Beatles, Bob Dylan, The Rolling Stones, Stevie Wonder (who was actually even DISCOVERED by one of The Miraclesthe late Ronnie White) and THE WHOSo. This isn't a situation where being part of a psuedo-dynasty elevates him up 10-15 spots. Wilson Pickett: 9/10 Percy Sledge: 2/10 "Love Machine" Wham!, Thelma Houston Solomon Burke: 7/10 Did the management of this establishment put you up to this? From 2013: I'd rather they be a 3, but a lot of those 3s are untouchable. It's high time that we recognize their limitations as exactly that and take them down off the arbitrary pedestal they were perverse placed on. Note: Emails will not be visible or used in any way, but are required. Thank you. I'd also argue that Judas Priest, LL Cool J and Kraftwerk deserve to be on the pyramid as they are in no way sidemen or pre-rock. "Happy Landing" - The Temptations. Thanks very much for your kind words , Nick !! Patti Smith: 9/10 Game 6 of the 2016 WCF gets him to this point almost by itself. James Brown. The Moody Blues Even bands and genres that would be offended by the thought of being influenced by Metallica (punk and emo, for example), are influenced by Metallica. Metallica: 10/10 CCR (Level 3) Ray [although I haven't seeen it yet] 12. 143. Blake Griffin doesn't make the Pyramid, but he was a Top 3 guy for a few years there. The Dells Dire Straits, Nina Simone #5? 2. Judas Priest (Level 1 or 2) Prince It is nice to see that you can be objective about The Byrds importance although you admit to not being a fan, but I think your dislike for Neil is getting in the way of your objectivity. 28. HARDLY !! The Bee Gees To tell you the truth, outside of 1950s rock 'n roll (which I will love to my dying days) and some later eras/genres of rock 'n roll, I'm growing increasingly bored with rock 'n roll music. "I Like It Like That" (Miracles song)- Bobby Vee, Mitch Ryder & the Detroit Wheels. Hell, one of the most commercially successful pop-rock bands of the 21st century (Nickelback) consider Metallica as their biggest influence. I assumed you meant the bottom, but I don't wanna put words in your mouth. Journey: Influenced Bon Jovi. Dwight Howard [from Level 1, below McGrady]. The Ronettes: 6/10 If he keeps pushing for 3-4 more years and the Warriors get back to being contenders and Steph stays as a Top 10 guy in the league, he's moving up into the Dirk range and maybe the Pantheon. depeche mode - 2 or 3 Public Enemy: 3 Theyre not even one of my favorite bands, but with one album they changed the genre of punk and did more for the British music scene than bands like Yes could ever dream of doing. Posted by Nick 2)The Ramones-They need to be demoted. Joan Jett and the Blackhearts Most quiet inductee? Read our Privacy Policy and Cookie Policy to get more information and learn how to set up your preferences. Janet Jackson 43. Posted by Jason Voigt on Wednesday, 09/26/2018 @ 14:03pm. Fats Domino. Michael Jordan Bill Russell Kareem Abdul-Jabbar Magic Johnson Larry Bird Wilt Chamberlain Tim Duncan Kobe Bryant Jerry West Oscar Robertson This thread is archived New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast 0 33 Related Topics Most quiet inductee? 1993 Dinah Washington Traffic John Mellencamp *** This list does not reflect my own opinions. Donna Summer: 8/10 The Pretenders: 8/10 85. Duran Duran (Level 1 or 2) And I'd love to invent a 0 just for Def Leppard. Peter Gabriel - See more at: http://whoisbigger.com/#sthash.msMujDin.dpuf, Posted by Darrin A on Sunday, 12/15/2013 @ 12:43pm. Both bands have always struck me as being out of place as 1st-year inductees, and it could be a case of their influence or perceived importance decreasing over time, even their induction. Solid list nonetheless, I hate the Warriors but this is n't a situation where being part a. 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